AI brocken (or much to easy) on extreme
We are playing a conquest on extreme. Since the last update, in every mission the AI don´t have more then 2 units + warchief. Last game was a 2vs6 and the AIs were nearly dead before we could attack them. With 2 units they couldn´t clear the neutral lands, and the economy is realy poor. Saw this on every mission typ. (We are blue and brown on the screenshot.)
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03 Nov, '21
Fr_disruption(Shiro) SystemHighlighted comment
"extreme conquest become too easy." (suggested by dan on 2021-11-02), including upvotes (1) and comments (0), was merged into this suggestion. -
02 Nov, '21
dan MergedOver the past month, we have found the extreme mode has been modified.
In extreme mode ,the AI level is similar to that in normal or easy.
When palying in extreme mode,everything has become simple.
AI almost don't attack players,or 2 soldiers....
It was only in 804 that the holy thing was created. -
03 Nov, '21
Fr_disruption(Shiro) System"extreme conquest" (suggested by dan on 2021-11-02), including upvotes (1) and comments (0), was merged into this suggestion.
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10 Apr, '22
MiddleCaseTo add in on this, the AI will constantly send hordes of military to go on vacation in neutral zones and that is where they will stay. EX Dragon war chief, 3 Drauger jotun, 5 dragonkin just chillin ignoring the fact that their town hall is being taken.
Do not know if this is happening outside of ragnarok or extreme diff. but it is a common occurrence lately. -
05 Jun, '23
DaniyarI completely agree.
When the conquests first appeared, the game was challenging and interesting. I lost 30% before.
A month ago a friend (a villager) asked for help and I discovered that the bots had degraded.
They are unable to win a player with 1 hero and 6 throwers. 2x6. I destroyed the entire map with 1 hero and 6 throwers to 804.
Just teach the bots to keep armies in a single bunch so that their wars do not scatter all over the map one by one. And they should attack the player. -
28 Jul, '23
AkiyamaYep. There was a time, where the AI attaked you together with 30-40 units. But now, in a 2vs6 they send their troups separately with 5-6 units. No coordinated attacks, No more then 8 units per clan. Only conquer one tile, then they rest 10 minutes. Please give us a hardcore mode which is something like you gave us three years ago. It´s ridiculous easy now on extreme.
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13 Dec, '23
MeExtreme is still too easy on conquest, mainly due to the AI either dying or simply not having enough troops. They do not attack with serious numbers, or if they do take a tile they will not keep going to main hall. I did a 1v7 for example and was able to win easily, 2 years ago I would have been annihilated and would play on Hard. The Lion and Stoat clans will tend to die early to neutral mobs due to lack of towers I assume.
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13 Dec, '23
Waiting for a Real aithe AI is worse after each update. rename extreme mode to afk mode next time... I still hope to see v1 again one day but for now I'm just going to close the game.
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17 Dec, '23
TiaanHi. I have been playing Northgard from the start. Me and my friends most of the time play it versus AI. Since the last patch, I believe it was the release of the clan of the Owl. We had obligations between the updates of the Clan of the Stoat and Owl. The AI is super weird, 1 game the AI almost stomps us, the next it's as passive as a drop of water on the floor, more than 60% of games. Their military units sit on the main tile while a neutral is decolonizing and they do absolutely nothing. Why I know something changed is because it wasn't like this. Example was last night, 2v2v2v2 Extreme, Northgard map, Wisdom and Trade Victories Deactivated. When we eventually started scouting them. 4 of the AI's were on low fame, 4 military units on main tile and 100% docile. Doing nothing. They send in their Warchief until they die, and repeat. Most went Guardian Military route.
The other 2 AI's played as normal and was a good competition. Thank you for your efforts to fix whatever happens. -
22 Dec, '23
Jazz 'the hippy' WrightHi team,
Me and my friend play 2-player Conquest consistently, multiple times a week, on EXTREME difficulty.
We noticed some major changes to the AI behaviour around the time when the Owl clan was released.
GOOD:
+ The AI now "micro" their units in fights. They retreat low health units to avoid them being killed then push them back in when target priority has changed. This is great because it is similar to how a human player would behave. Great work.
+ Early game strategy and aggression of AI players is strong and challenging.
BAD:
+ Their overall "macro" strategy and late game economy has become significantly worse, to the extent that they pose no threat to human players, and sometimes are defeated by neutral factions.
Please look into this issue.
Thanks (love your work)! -
22 Dec, '23
ShinibonEverything the post above by Jazz "the hippy" Wright said with a few additions:
1. Neutral factions interaction with AI is also wild. Most games they will max out relationship with a neutral faction and then immediately betray them, and when it happens with the Jotun, the AI usually ends up dying to them. I've also seen them lose to the Kobolds on the the hostile Kobolds type conquests.
2. AI will send a horde of units to take one of your zones. If you kill all of that army, they'll expend every unit they have left into a second army and leave it in a zone for the rest of the game without attacking you, usually to the point that they literally only have military units and no one producing a resource (food, wood, etc.) I watched an AI starve to death over and over to this behavior bug.
All of this didn't happen before the AI behavior changes that happened in the Owl update. I recommend just reverting to that AI level. -
14 Jan, '24
LockHowlWe're reaching 2 months since the AI initially broke. Are you guys working on it? Any updates? Bump. Bump. Bump.
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30 Jan, '24
MarkYeah, game is totally useless to me untill they fix this. Only play Conquest with a friend, and it's just no fun, AI is absolutely useless so there's 0 challenge.
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01 Feb, '24
NoxPlaying Conquest with friend and bots are very passive. A few months ago, bots, even on normal, were agressive and regularly attacked us. Now they capture 3-4 territories and just sit there doing nothing.
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06 Feb, '24
AkiyamaSince the issues with AI have evolved over the past few years, here is a compilation of the current problems:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/466560/discussions/1/7119694643866341979/